Tiny House Codes – A Break Down

Codes for tiny houses are a complex issue, I’m going to attempt to break them down.  This is a lot of facts and some opinions, take it as you’d like but keep this in mind (and always consider motives in your research):  I have no skin in this game, my tiny house goals are accomplished.  If I am asked to leave my home tomorrow I am fine with that.  I do not own a company, I don’t even make much money from this site.  I always stand solidly behind the DIY builder but definitely understand and encourage those who want a pre-built tiny home and certainly respect someone who chooses to build tiny houses for a living (it is no easy task and they seem to face a lot of opposition, in my opinion they don’t make enough per build to deal with the criticisms I’ve seen, but I digress…).

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So, at the start, many, many years ago….

A guy wanted to build a very small house, he went to the BUILDING DEPARTMENT to get permits, like [almost] every build has to do to be legal (or face fines).  He was told he didn’t meet the minimum square foot standards.

Him: ‘I just want a small place to call my own, like 200 s.f.’

Building Dept. ‘we require a minimum of xxx s.f. for structures based on ‘xyz”

Him: ‘Well what happens if I build it any way?

Building Dept. ‘We will have it removed and fine you for not following the proper path that EVERY structure in our city has to follow’

Try, try, try, the jurisdiction just wouldn’t budge and allow less than the minimum s.f.! No matter how much he proves he can meet every other code required.  

Him: ‘Ok, well I’ll put it on wheels then, will that work?’

Building Dept.: ‘Oh, we don’t regulate temporary structures or vehicles, talk to DOT…’

DOT: ‘Sure that’s fine, let us know when you’re done and we will title and register your new LEGAL RV’

Him: ‘But I want to live in it all the time, not just recreate in it…’

DOT: ‘Oh, well you’re going to have to talk to the zoning department to see where you can live in an RV year round in your town…”

Him: ‘Ok’

Zoning: ‘Well, we don’t have anywhere that you can live longer than ‘x’ amount of days in an RV but we have these nice RV parks here, here and here…’

Him: ‘Hmmm, well I don’t really want to live in an RV park… What if I just park it in my friends backyard… I mean how will you know if I am living in it or not?’

Zoning: ‘Well, we don’t police that stuff, if someone files a complaint we will have to ask you to vacate the property… and you’ll have ‘x’ amount of days to fix the situation’

OR Him: ‘What happens if I stay ‘x+1′ days?’

Zoning: ‘Well, we are complaint based so if there is a complaint we will have to ask you to leave…’

Him: ‘but if no one complains no issue?’

Zoning: ‘Pretty much’

And this is pretty much how Tiny Houses are regulated right now.  Sketchy, right?  Who wants to invest all this money to maybe be told they have to vacate their current situation?  This is that ‘grey area’ that some people are trying to fix… but it is a part of the tiny house movement since day one…

Remember, this guy just wanted to build a very small house, on a foundation.  The wheels are a work around that was taken to bypass a regulating agency, the building department.  By doing this he was able to avoid fines that would otherwise have been placed on the structure BUT also by doing this he has to deal with the uncertainty of his location… If he is reported, he won’t face fines but he’ll have to move… For this guy the benefits outweigh the risks so he goes forward… Follows DOT requirements and builds a homemade RV.  Then lives in it and get’s lucky, with no reports, or he doesn’t and he gets reported and has to move… the end.

Ok, now YEARS later…

There are 100 people who want to build a small place, all their own.  The go to pull permits, like EVERY build has to do, only to be told they can’t build that small…  The building department (who work directly for the citizens of their town) notice, ‘hey, we have a lot of folks asking to build small places, smaller than code currently allows… we should question this requirement…’ (this is why it’s important you TALK TO YOUR JURISDICTION about your desire to live tiny).  He processes the thought through city council, people show up to say, ‘yeah, this is a good idea!’ Changes are made and folks are allowed to live tiny, legally. Permitted and regulated through the city, just like all other structures in the given city.  Now 100 more people want to build their own small place, they are allowed to, no questions asked, it’s just normal…

So… If what you want is a tiny house on a foundation it is infinitely easier to do completely legally!  Go to your building department, ask if it’s allowed (know how big you want, maybe have a plan).  If they say no, ask about getting a variance from code.  If they say ‘yep!’, then there you are, done and off to the races living tiny completely legally! (and you can thank all of those annoying TV shows and click bait articles for helping to normalize it!)

Here is where it get’s tricky…

Some people LIKE the work around, I mean they are mobile, how cool is it to be able to move whenever you want and take your whole house with you! (Hint: It’s very cool!  There are thousands of retirees and families who have been doing that for years in the RV world)  It’s just that little ‘RV’ clause… You may say… ‘but these are not RVs, these are TINY HOUSES!’

…No, they are RVs…

It’s not a personal attack to say that. It doesn’t mean ‘the government is keeping you down’…  We are talking about codes and legalities, WE as a collective people have made those!  It is NOT ‘us vs them’ (and once you turn it into that sort of an argument you give up all of your ability to affect change!).  The thing is, ‘RV’ is the ONLY classification for a mobile structure that you can live any amount of time in.  You have mobile offices you can work out of, you have semi trailers, utility trailers, etc. None of those allow habitation, they don’t allow utilities, ovens, beds, etc.  RV’s are the ONLY classification that is close because they allow temporary habitation.

The thing is, they don’t have to follow any safety standards or rules other than the size requirements and hazard steps required by the DMV in most cases… but there is that pesky issue of not being able to live all the time in the ‘unregulated but probably fine, potential death trap…’

We have to change that!  

Here are some solutions currently being offered:

    • RVIA – Regulate all tiny houses through RVIA which certifies that builders construct to ANSI standards…{opinion} Not a great option, RVIA certifies builders, not houses. This would entirely remove the DIY option for tiny houses… and would offer you no more permanence than anything you can already have with a homemade RV except a slight amount more security in being able to park it in an RV park (which mostly enforce time limits anyway).
    • Changing ANSI – Change ANSI to standards to something ‘more friendly to tiny houses’ as some have stated.
      Changing codes is a long process and not easily done.  ANSI stands for American National Standards Institute.  It is the agency that creates codes for basically everything, housing codes (IRC) and building codes (IBC) defer to ANSI and they regulate Recreational Vehicle codes (NFPA 1192) (that’s right, there already ARE standards for RV’s, they don’t necessarily get followed in homebuilt RV’s as is).{Opinion} It’s silly to think, since it isn’t easy to meet ANSI we would have the power to just change it to our favor as one organization would suggest.  ANSI is already currently obtainable for tiny houses, RVIA builders produce ANSI certified tiny houses (RVs) currently.  DIY builders can build to ANSI standards as well, the portion that is lacking for DIY RV builds is a certifying body.
      There have been a few options for this popping up on the radar but so far they have been certifying standards ‘based on ANSI’ but those are just bypassing the real regulating body.  Further, standards ‘based on ANSI’ are NOT necessarily ANSI standards and so certifications being offered ‘to standards based on ANSI’ are not necessarily worthwhile certifications…
      If you’re going to go this way, use ANSI, certify ANSI, either for RVs or for a permanent structure, but use an existing code.  That is what RVIA does for builders but it is a whole different ball game to certify DIY builds.  That is a whole lot of liability that would be tough to take on without an awesome business plan AND training acceptable by ANSI.  Take that as a challenge all you entrepreneurs! 😉
      Even if these were alternately ‘certified’ it would still be an issue of zoning, you would likely only be able to legally park where RVs are currently legally allowed to park still, mostly just RV parks.
    • Changing IRC to include Tiny Housing-
      It’s not difficult anymore to design a very small space to IRC codes.  The sticking point is the wheels, the workaround that was pursued entirely so that you could avoid the building department, and, in doing that the IRC.{Opinion} This pretty much already exists.  IRC covers foundation houses though.  To turn around and make any demand that building code now covers mobile structures is silly.  I am guessing it would be fairly simple though to allow for a house to be built on a trailer so long as you were able to remove the axles and get an approved foundation detail on tying the trailer frame to the ground, permanently.
    • Change Zoning to allow full time RV living
      This is an option, although not a very appealing one and probably not easily done.  The reason RVs are not allowed to be lived in full time is the code that regulates them doesn’t offer the same safety as full time buildings (egress, structure, etc., real concerns).  By allowing full time use for RV’s you’d be opening up room not just for ‘Tiny Homes’ but for all sorts of other RV’s that aren’t built as well…. While this may work in some areas, it’s not likely to work in most for that reason.
      {opinion} This is also something that would be handled on a case by case basis, there is no overall ‘Zoning Code’ that all jurisdictions play by, it’s something developed by the jurisdiction with direct input from people like you and me (so get involved!).  In this case I would expect that only ANSI certified RV’s would be accepted (RVIA is currently the only governing body producing RVIA builds so this wouldn’t necessarily help the DIYer even though it sounds like it may.)

 

  • HUD regulation –
    HUD stands for department of Housing and Urban Development.  They are who regulate affordable housing.{opinion} it sounds appealing but there are very strict regulations that come with HUD, they are who regulate manufactured housing.  This option would likely require licensed manufacturers to produce housing, also taking it out of the realm of possible for the average DIYer. AND still leaves that pesky zoning issue.

 

 

Here’s an idea though…

And it’s just an idea… This came up as a possible solution given from a local zoning official at one of our local MeetUp groups… it’s a bit of a mix of the above options, zoning and building.

If you want to make a tiny house and you don’t want to move it, build on a foundation, you most likely can abymore, talk to your local building department.

If you want to make a tiny home to travel the country, you can, do it, talk to your local DMV for special requirements (they are probably few).  Just be aware of your parking situation and zoning ordinances locally, you are regulated as an ‘uncertified’ RV (unless you purchased a certified tiny house RV).

BUT, if you want to make a tiny home to live in full time in mostly one location but you MAY want to also move it at some point, you would have to do so to measurable safety standards while also paying attention to zoning codes, there are few places that allow full time RV use in a way that most people want to use their tiny house.

So… the idea… What about opening a new category, one that is clearly a vehicle, because there are wheels (this is not an insult but a categorization), yet a vehicle who has gone the extra mile to meet safety standards for full time use.  The officials words were to call it an ‘Advanced RV’.  It would be different than a typical RV or a homemade RV because it meets higher safety standards for full time use.  Yet it is still characterized as the vehicle it is, so it COULD be moved.  This would make it easier to open up a zoning classification separate from ‘RV’ but for something rated for full time use (a tiny house) while not opening a flood gate to ALL RVs which don’t necessarily meet those standards.

This WOULD mean that tiny houses wanting to achieve this level of location security would have to meet ANSI codes and possibly more strict IRC codes per building dept. (still very possible) and it may mean they would have to meet some vague material/aesthetic standards via zoning ordinances. But it may be a valid path?

As an example, this would allow an empty-nester to live permanently on their own land nine months of the year if it was approved for ‘advanced RV’ use (likely tied down and secured semi-permanently) then, in the winter hitch up their home and drive to Florida to live temporarily at their daughters location, within RV regulations.

Long story short, there isn’t necessarily a way to live legally and securely in a tiny house by avoiding codes. There are a lot of people living less than legally currently.  In the suggested solution it won’t take away anyone’s current abilities to live tiny in the ‘grey area’ but it WOULD open up a new legal path to this lifestyle, offering security to a greater amount of people, therefore allowing more people to set off on their tiny house journey.

Currently, you’re either ok with the ‘grey area’ and possibly moving or {opinion} you should be actively trying to work within the existing regulations to find a legal process to live tiny.  It’s a very complex and probably overwhelming issue for most, I write this as an overview so you can be aware of the obstacles and don’t get sucked into something that sounds ‘legit’ but really isn’t because I have seen a few of those offered now.

There have been a couple of other great articles posted on the topic:

I would love to hear your comments, thoughts and feedback.

 

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Education – Help Me Out (Please)

This has been a big topic for me lately.  Hazel is 2.  There is a lot of pressure to start her in pre-school (starts at 3 now).  I don’t remember it being that way!  I don’t feel like she is ready.  She is just starting to explore things on her own and figure things out in her own way.  I’m not ready for her to go to a pre-school and learn how to be taught. I want her to be a kid, find her confidence and figure things out in her own time and in her own way.  I feel like the learning she is doing now is bigger than colors and letters… and that jumping the gun just to get those could set her independence back… at the same time, two of the higher ranking schools (if we go that way) open up next year with their pre-k, which she pretty much needs to attend to get in (there are only 7 spots for those who don’t attend the pre-k and a lot more applicants)… and registrations are coming up… this choice I thought I had a couple years to make is being thrust on me early and I don’t like it!

If you have 12 minutes, watch this.

So, no, I don’t base big important life choices on a Youtube video but I remember the first time I watched that, years before I had, or was going to have kids, it resonated hard with me.  Then I have friends who teach school who tell me they wouldn’t want their kids going to school where they teach, that it isn’t designed for all kids, just most.  And I think about what I want for Miles and Hazel.  Like any parent I easily say that I want ‘the best’.  But then I wonder what that is…

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Right now I am looking at the options of public school, charter school, international charter school, online schools, home schooling and even unschooling.  I think the child’s experience is based on the personality of that child and Hazel has already proved she is not at all like her dad or I when it comes to personality and so we would be doing a disservice to dictate her experiences based on ours… I just keep going over the options and I want my kids to think outside the box.  I keep wondering if the best way to enable them to think outside the box is to teach outside of the box… and what should that look like…

I know that the people reading this are rarely parents but I am hoping for a few… maybe some empty nesters??? 😉

I would love to hear from other parents, or interested parties, in the comments (please):

  • What was your child’s educational experience?  
  • Are you happy that you chose/had that education for them?  
  • What would you do differently if you had it to do over again?  
  • Would you have made different choices if you were in the position to not work some of those years?

I have actually be doing many a circles in my head with these thoughts, one day I might get bold and share the other website I made where I have been sorting through this stuff… For now it feels like a more personal life choice that gets criticized more than tiny houses… so I am a little guarded, probably until I actually make that choice and feel like I can defend it.

Thanks for the help!

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